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	<title>Comments on: An identity politics rant</title>
	<link>http://www.polimom.com/2008/01/28/an-identity-politics-rant/</link>
	<description>I used to be in the middle, but they keep moving the line!</description>
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		<title>by: Polimom</title>
		<link>http://www.polimom.com/2008/01/28/an-identity-politics-rant/#comment-112934</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hi John -- yes, they sound &lt;em&gt;much &lt;/em&gt;saner than the NY bunch.

Goldenrod -- I'm afraid I don't agree that Kennedy would not have endorsed a woman.  In fact, I think the endorsement has nothing at all to do with gender.
FWIW -- I knew a man who was gravely injured in an accident, but was abandoned by his male friends, who left the scene of the accident because they were drunken, irresponsible jackasses.  So I don't necessarily assign sexism to Kennedy's abandonment of Mary Jo Kopechne.  IMHO, the Chappaquiddick incident was an example of the very same jackass behavior, combined with ridiculous, blatant preferential treatment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John &#8212; yes, they sound <em>much </em>saner than the NY bunch.</p>
<p>Goldenrod &#8212; I&#8217;m afraid I don&#8217;t agree that Kennedy would not have endorsed a woman.  In fact, I think the endorsement has nothing at all to do with gender.<br />
FWIW &#8212; I knew a man who was gravely injured in an accident, but was abandoned by his male friends, who left the scene of the accident because they were drunken, irresponsible jackasses.  So I don&#8217;t necessarily assign sexism to Kennedy&#8217;s abandonment of Mary Jo Kopechne.  IMHO, the Chappaquiddick incident was an example of the very same jackass behavior, combined with ridiculous, blatant preferential treatment.
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		<title>by: John</title>
		<link>http://www.polimom.com/2008/01/28/an-identity-politics-rant/#comment-112930</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>We should note that NOW's national office put out a statement about the Kennedy endorsement, too: http://www.now.org/press/01-08/01-28.html

It's rather different than the NY chapter's.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should note that NOW&#8217;s national office put out a statement about the Kennedy endorsement, too: <a href="http://www.now.org/press/01-08/01-28.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.now.org/press/01-08/01-28.html</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s rather different than the NY chapter&#8217;s.
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		<title>by: Goldenrod</title>
		<link>http://www.polimom.com/2008/01/28/an-identity-politics-rant/#comment-112895</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 10:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>P.S.  I think you stated, &#38; very recently, that you were glad the candidates were finally getting back to talking about the issues.  It didn't last very long, did it?  We're back to the sameoh sameoh ... personalities, prejudices and dirty politics.  

We should all get out our shovels!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.  I think you stated, &amp; very recently, that you were glad the candidates were finally getting back to talking about the issues.  It didn&#8217;t last very long, did it?  We&#8217;re back to the sameoh sameoh &#8230; personalities, prejudices and dirty politics.  </p>
<p>We should all get out our shovels!
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		<title>by: Goldenrod</title>
		<link>http://www.polimom.com/2008/01/28/an-identity-politics-rant/#comment-112891</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 09:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>NOW has been, for  years, radically pro-"anything resembling a woman's cause".
You see it their way or no way.  

Many years ago, I was somewhat interested in joining their organization, but I saw their extreme narrow-mindedness even then.  &lt;strong&gt;My&lt;/strong&gt; view is that I would like to be treated as a person.  As an older woman, I still enjoy &#38; appreciate having doors opened for me.  I like being called "Ma'am" in a respectful way, altho there was a time when I objected to the term.  (I finally got over that bit of nonsense!)

Unfortunately, in my opinion, Ted Kennedy's endorsement of Barack Obama might easily become a mixed blessing.  Long known as a flaming philanderer, Ted Kennedy's flagrant disregard for &#38; dismissal of the female gender was encapsulized (-ated?) in the MJC (K?) incident, where -- in his seeming drunken state -- he abandoned his female companion who subsequently drowned.

I question Mr. Obama's "embrace" of Mr. Kennedy's endorsement.  I question Mr. Obama's integrity.  Certainly the Kennedy nod of approval will carry great weight among many other, equally-bigoted in the voting public.  It shouldn't be this way, but it is!

What bothers me, equally, is the national media's picking up on this latest "news flash", and featuring this scoundrel on most of their broadcasts.  If I'd had my way, and I didn't, of course, Mr. Kennedy would have been relegated to page 36Z long ago.

There was never any doubt in my mind that he would not endorse a woman for President.  It doesn't have anything to do with "this woman".  BUT, what does this say about Barack Obama?  That will remain to be seen, won't it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NOW has been, for  years, radically pro-&#8221;anything resembling a woman&#8217;s cause&#8221;.<br />
You see it their way or no way.  </p>
<p>Many years ago, I was somewhat interested in joining their organization, but I saw their extreme narrow-mindedness even then.  <strong>My</strong> view is that I would like to be treated as a person.  As an older woman, I still enjoy &amp; appreciate having doors opened for me.  I like being called &#8220;Ma&#8217;am&#8221; in a respectful way, altho there was a time when I objected to the term.  (I finally got over that bit of nonsense!)</p>
<p>Unfortunately, in my opinion, Ted Kennedy&#8217;s endorsement of Barack Obama might easily become a mixed blessing.  Long known as a flaming philanderer, Ted Kennedy&#8217;s flagrant disregard for &amp; dismissal of the female gender was encapsulized (-ated?) in the MJC (K?) incident, where &#8212; in his seeming drunken state &#8212; he abandoned his female companion who subsequently drowned.</p>
<p>I question Mr. Obama&#8217;s &#8220;embrace&#8221; of Mr. Kennedy&#8217;s endorsement.  I question Mr. Obama&#8217;s integrity.  Certainly the Kennedy nod of approval will carry great weight among many other, equally-bigoted in the voting public.  It shouldn&#8217;t be this way, but it is!</p>
<p>What bothers me, equally, is the national media&#8217;s picking up on this latest &#8220;news flash&#8221;, and featuring this scoundrel on most of their broadcasts.  If I&#8217;d had my way, and I didn&#8217;t, of course, Mr. Kennedy would have been relegated to page 36Z long ago.</p>
<p>There was never any doubt in my mind that he would not endorse a woman for President.  It doesn&#8217;t have anything to do with &#8220;this woman&#8221;.  BUT, what does this say about Barack Obama?  That will remain to be seen, won&#8217;t it?
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		<title>by: Ed T.</title>
		<link>http://www.polimom.com/2008/01/28/an-identity-politics-rant/#comment-112890</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 09:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>So sad... it seems that NOW was able to deal with Ted K's involvement in the &lt;em&gt;real death&lt;/em&gt; of a woman calmly (almost as if &lt;em&gt;they ignored it&lt;/em&gt;), but then they freak over the "metaphorical gang-raping" of Hillary.

And, it is not as if this was unexpected.  After all even &lt;em&gt;I&lt;/em&gt; knew that the Kennedys and the Clintons weren't exactly best buds.

One more thought: since Caroline Kennedy also endorsed Sen. Obama, does that mean she was one of metaphorical rapists?  If so, does that mean that NOW is not only racist, but also &lt;em&gt;homophobic&lt;/em&gt;?

It would be fun to watch - if only it weren't so sad...

~EdT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So sad&#8230; it seems that NOW was able to deal with Ted K&#8217;s involvement in the <em>real death</em> of a woman calmly (almost as if <em>they ignored it</em>), but then they freak over the &#8220;metaphorical gang-raping&#8221; of Hillary.</p>
<p>And, it is not as if this was unexpected.  After all even <em>I</em> knew that the Kennedys and the Clintons weren&#8217;t exactly best buds.</p>
<p>One more thought: since Caroline Kennedy also endorsed Sen. Obama, does that mean she was one of metaphorical rapists?  If so, does that mean that NOW is not only racist, but also <em>homophobic</em>?</p>
<p>It would be fun to watch - if only it weren&#8217;t so sad&#8230;</p>
<p>~EdT.
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		<title>by: If You Don&#8217;t Choose Hillary, You Hate Women</title>
		<link>http://www.polimom.com/2008/01/28/an-identity-politics-rant/#comment-112861</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 03:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: John</title>
		<link>http://www.polimom.com/2008/01/28/an-identity-politics-rant/#comment-112859</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 03:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Gross. If we're going to play identity politics: young women need role models, but young black people don't? 

It's so stupid it makes my eyes bleed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gross. If we&#8217;re going to play identity politics: young women need role models, but young black people don&#8217;t? </p>
<p>It&#8217;s so stupid it makes my eyes bleed.
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