Comments on: Iran and the tide of public opinion http://www.polimom.com/2007/02/13/iran-and-the-tide-of-public-opinion/ I used to be in the middle, but they keep moving the line! Sun, 14 Mar 2010 05:45:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.5 by: Bob M http://www.polimom.com/2007/02/13/iran-and-the-tide-of-public-opinion/#comment-56824 Thu, 15 Feb 2007 14:59:25 +0000 http://www.polimom.com/2007/02/13/iran-and-the-tide-of-public-opinion/#comment-56824 Comment Successfully Posted No chance this gets lots of play or even consideration in the Congress. Or CNN, or CBS, or...the list is pretty long. Anyone still think we should be giving legitimacy to Iran via negotiating the future of Iraq with them? Paul | Homepage | 02.13.07 - 8:21 am | # -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I got an idea. This means that it is the fault of Bush for not providing adequate body armor. Ymarsakar | Homepage | 02.13.07 - 10:26 am | # -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BTW, here's the PPT presentation that detailed Iranian involvement: http://www.realcities.com/ multim...ran_in_Iraq.pdf - SJS Steeljaw Scribe | Homepage | 02.13.07 - 11:10 am | # -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It would be interesting to know whether these went to the Shia or the Sunnis. Ymarsakar | Homepage | 02.13.07 - 1:57 pm | # -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- All the proof in the world will not matter unless we are actually (finally?) willing to kill on the scale necessary to destroy Iran's regime and nuclear program. No one seems to have the stomach for it. The same also applies to our treatment of enemy "combatants". Anthony Mirvish | 02.13.07 - 5:10 pm | # -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kind of strange that the Telegraph said the .50s were sold to Iran for about $20,000 a piece. They can be bought in the USA for $4000. Franz Holzschuh, Steyr's CEO, said the company had not officially been contacted by anyone to verify the serial numbers on the rifles. He said there was a possibility the weapons were reproductions and that there were ``thousands'' of these in circulation. http://www.guardian.co.uk/ worldl...6413967,00.html Comment Successfully Posted

No chance this gets lots of play or even consideration in the Congress. Or CNN, or CBS, or…the list is pretty long.

Anyone still think we should be giving legitimacy to Iran via negotiating the future of Iraq with them?
Paul | Homepage | 02.13.07 - 8:21 am | #

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I got an idea. This means that it is the fault of Bush for not providing adequate body armor.
Ymarsakar | Homepage | 02.13.07 - 10:26 am | #

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BTW, here’s the PPT presentation that detailed Iranian involvement:
http://www.realcities.com/ multim…ran_in_Iraq.pdf

- SJS
Steeljaw Scribe | Homepage | 02.13.07 - 11:10 am | #

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It would be interesting to know whether these went to the Shia or the Sunnis.
Ymarsakar | Homepage | 02.13.07 - 1:57 pm | #

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All the proof in the world will not matter unless we are actually (finally?) willing to kill on the scale necessary to destroy Iran’s regime and nuclear program. No one seems to have the stomach for it. The same also applies to our treatment of enemy “combatants”.
Anthony Mirvish | 02.13.07 - 5:10 pm | #

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Kind of strange that the Telegraph said the .50s were sold to Iran for about $20,000 a piece. They can be bought in the USA for $4000.

Franz Holzschuh, Steyr’s CEO, said the company had not officially
been contacted by anyone to verify the serial numbers on the rifles.
He said there was a possibility the weapons were reproductions and
that there were “thousands'’ of these in circulation.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/ worldl…6413967,00.html

]]> by: roux http://www.polimom.com/2007/02/13/iran-and-the-tide-of-public-opinion/#comment-56584 Wed, 14 Feb 2007 02:44:05 +0000 http://www.polimom.com/2007/02/13/iran-and-the-tide-of-public-opinion/#comment-56584 Iran is falling apart domestically. That's why nut boy keeps making statements. I've read that there is as much as 30% inflation and they are going to start rationing fuel soon. All they need is a little push and Iran's gov't will crumble. Iran is falling apart domestically. That’s why nut boy keeps making statements. I’ve read that there is as much as 30% inflation and they are going to start rationing fuel soon. All they need is a little push and Iran’s gov’t will crumble.

]]> by: A Blog For All http://www.polimom.com/2007/02/13/iran-and-the-tide-of-public-opinion/#comment-56578 Wed, 14 Feb 2007 02:02:26 +0000 http://www.polimom.com/2007/02/13/iran-and-the-tide-of-public-opinion/#comment-56578 <strong>Of Serial Numbers and Vapor Trails...</strong> Terrorists have been captured in Iraq using sniper rifles that were originally manufactured in Austria. That isn't the juicy part. The juicy part is that the weapon was part of a larger shipment of sniper rifles sent to Iran in an official shipment t.... Of Serial Numbers and Vapor Trails…

Terrorists have been captured in Iraq using sniper rifles that were originally manufactured in Austria. That isn’t the juicy part. The juicy part is that the weapon was part of a larger shipment of sniper rifles sent to Iran in an official shipment t….

]]> by: Blue Crab Boulevard » Allies? http://www.polimom.com/2007/02/13/iran-and-the-tide-of-public-opinion/#comment-56544 Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:54:08 +0000 http://www.polimom.com/2007/02/13/iran-and-the-tide-of-public-opinion/#comment-56544 [...] UPDATE: The rifles were purchased by the Iranian government supposedly for anti-drug efforts. Others: Confederate Yankee, Jules Crittenden, Roger L. Simon, Power Line, QandO, Gateway Pundit, The Bullwinkle Blog, Polimom Says, The Moderate Voice, Captain's Quarters,  Protein Wisdom, Hot Air, TigerHawk, Argghhh!, Instapundit, Hugh Hewitt, Outside The Beltway, Beltway Blogroll, Classical Values, The Political Pit Bull,  [...] […] UPDATE: The rifles were purchased by the Iranian government supposedly for anti-drug efforts. Others: Confederate Yankee, Jules Crittenden, Roger L. Simon, Power Line, QandO, Gateway Pundit, The Bullwinkle Blog, Polimom Says, The Moderate Voice, Captain's Quarters,  Protein Wisdom, Hot Air, TigerHawk, Argghhh!, Instapundit, Hugh Hewitt, Outside The Beltway, Beltway Blogroll, Classical Values, The Political Pit Bull,  […]

]]> by: The Moderate Voice » Blog Archive » Iran, Bush, and public opinion http://www.polimom.com/2007/02/13/iran-and-the-tide-of-public-opinion/#comment-56504 Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:32:50 +0000 http://www.polimom.com/2007/02/13/iran-and-the-tide-of-public-opinion/#comment-56504 [...] administration? More here. Posted on February 13, 2007 | Permalink | Categories Iran, Iraq | | View blog reactions &#187 ">Comment #1 ">Gray said, February 13, 2007 at 7:28 am “Would an Austrian shipment ofguns making it to the Iraqi streets within 45 days of arriving in the hands of the Iranian government make any difference?” [...] […] administration? More here. Posted on February 13, 2007 | Permalink | Categories Iran, Iraq | | View blog reactions &#187 “>Comment #1 “>Gray said, February 13, 2007 at 7:28 am “Would an Austrian shipment ofguns making it to the Iraqi streets within 45 days of arriving in the hands of the Iranian government make any difference?” […]

]]> by: jpe http://www.polimom.com/2007/02/13/iran-and-the-tide-of-public-opinion/#comment-56498 Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:02:26 +0000 http://www.polimom.com/2007/02/13/iran-and-the-tide-of-public-opinion/#comment-56498 It wasn't the Guardian; it was the Telegraph, which is ideologically joined at the hip with the Weekly Standard. Per Ed T, this shouldn't be surprising, even if true (which it may or may not be - arms are money: they'll find ways of circulating outside of government sanctioned channels) It wasn’t the Guardian; it was the Telegraph, which is ideologically joined at the hip with the Weekly Standard. Per Ed T, this shouldn’t be surprising, even if true (which it may or may not be - arms are money: they’ll find ways of circulating outside of government sanctioned channels)

]]> by: The Master http://www.polimom.com/2007/02/13/iran-and-the-tide-of-public-opinion/#comment-56493 Tue, 13 Feb 2007 15:58:59 +0000 http://www.polimom.com/2007/02/13/iran-and-the-tide-of-public-opinion/#comment-56493 <blockquote>Nowhere in this article is any notice that the main source isn't US intelligence again. That’s lame.</blockquote> Lame? Hmmm . . . The US military is (presumably) the organization that is finding these weapons in Iraq (they said so). The Austrians (presumably) have confirmed that the weapons found by the US military are the same weapons shipped to an Iranian government organization (serial numbers, y'know . . .) The 45 day interval between delivery in Iran and the first one's appearance (use) in Iraq seems uncontroversial . . . What's lame? It's possible US (or British) Intelligence leaked the info to the Telegraph. Of course the Telegraph might have come across the story by other means and confirmed it with British Intelligence . . . Unless the Austrian government is in on circulating a fake story, this one is real. (BDS notwithstanding)

Nowhere in this article is any notice that the main source isn’t US intelligence again. That’s lame.

Lame?

Hmmm . . . The US military is (presumably) the organization that is finding these weapons in Iraq (they said so). The Austrians (presumably) have confirmed that the weapons found by the US military are the same weapons shipped to an Iranian government organization (serial numbers, y’know . . .) The 45 day interval between delivery in Iran and the first one’s appearance (use) in Iraq seems uncontroversial . . . What’s lame?

It’s possible US (or British) Intelligence leaked the info to the Telegraph. Of course the Telegraph might have come across the story by other means and confirmed it with British Intelligence . . .

Unless the Austrian government is in on circulating a fake story, this one is real.
(BDS notwithstanding)

]]> by: Gray http://www.polimom.com/2007/02/13/iran-and-the-tide-of-public-opinion/#comment-56489 Tue, 13 Feb 2007 15:35:35 +0000 http://www.polimom.com/2007/02/13/iran-and-the-tide-of-public-opinion/#comment-56489 "it came from another source altogether?" That's a statement that you don't prove here. Pls note that the Guradian story only mentions the british foreign office and unnamed US officials as sources. Nowhere in this article is any notice that the main source isn't US intelligence again. That's lame. “it came from another source altogether?”

That’s a statement that you don’t prove here. Pls note that the Guradian story only mentions the british foreign office and unnamed US officials as sources. Nowhere in this article is any notice that the main source isn’t US intelligence again. That’s lame.

]]> by: Ed T. http://www.polimom.com/2007/02/13/iran-and-the-tide-of-public-opinion/#comment-56485 Tue, 13 Feb 2007 15:17:15 +0000 http://www.polimom.com/2007/02/13/iran-and-the-tide-of-public-opinion/#comment-56485 Andy - maybe what we need to do is <em>build a fence</em>. ~EdT. Andy - maybe what we need to do is build a fence.

~EdT.

]]> by: Ed T. http://www.polimom.com/2007/02/13/iran-and-the-tide-of-public-opinion/#comment-56484 Tue, 13 Feb 2007 15:16:06 +0000 http://www.polimom.com/2007/02/13/iran-and-the-tide-of-public-opinion/#comment-56484 Once again, I find myself asking the following question: just which rock were the American pee-puhl hiding under these past years? Among the "surprises" that were anything but (at least to me): * The initial victory will be simple - fighting the ensuing insurgency, not so much. * The only thing the Iraqi people are likely to agree on is the desire to get US out. * The Iraqi factions will fight at the drop of a hat (do not, <em>repeat do not</em>, drop your hat.) * If you look behind the Iraqi insurgency, you are likely to find Iran. They will be fighting US vicariously through the Shiites. It simply boggles the mind... ~EdT. Once again, I find myself asking the following question: just which rock were the American pee-puhl hiding under these past years? Among the “surprises” that were anything but (at least to me):

* The initial victory will be simple - fighting the ensuing insurgency, not so much.
* The only thing the Iraqi people are likely to agree on is the desire to get US out.
* The Iraqi factions will fight at the drop of a hat (do not, repeat do not, drop your hat.)
* If you look behind the Iraqi insurgency, you are likely to find Iran. They will be fighting US vicariously through the Shiites.

It simply boggles the mind…

~EdT.

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