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	<title>Comments on: Sometimes, a floozy is just a floozy</title>
	<link>http://www.polimom.com/2006/10/25/sometimes-a-floozy-is-just-a-floozy/</link>
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		<title>by: Lynette</title>
		<link>http://www.polimom.com/2006/10/25/sometimes-a-floozy-is-just-a-floozy/#comment-44286</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 01:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I thought his parents were just light skinned</description>
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		<title>by: Polimom</title>
		<link>http://www.polimom.com/2006/10/25/sometimes-a-floozy-is-just-a-floozy/#comment-42708</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 22:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.polimom.com/2006/10/25/sometimes-a-floozy-is-just-a-floozy/#comment-42708</guid>
					<description>It's certainly a true statement that Katy is not populated solely by the color-blind.  However, I'd say the issues out here are more related to illegal immigration than the floozy discussion we've been having on this thread (speaking of which... this is a great dialogue!)

Regarding mixed ancestry and/ or bi-racial people -- I think society applies the labels strenuously, and mercilessly.   And the pressure on a person with one parent who is black and another white to "be black" (as opposed to being able to choose to "be white", or even multi-ethnic) comes hard from both sides of the color-chasm.  Yes, there are bi- or multi-ethnic people who choose to identify themselves as black, but it's very hard to choose another identity instead (see:  Tiger Woods).

And I cannot possibly comment without responding to Dorothy, who made my whole day with "&lt;em&gt;Perhaps you are just too pure of heart to see it.&lt;/em&gt;"

I'm pretty sure that's not how I ended up the way I am, and I'm shocked that any number of people haven't hastened to assure you of that.  (smile...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s certainly a true statement that Katy is not populated solely by the color-blind.  However, I&#8217;d say the issues out here are more related to illegal immigration than the floozy discussion we&#8217;ve been having on this thread (speaking of which&#8230; this is a great dialogue!)</p>
<p>Regarding mixed ancestry and/ or bi-racial people &#8212; I think society applies the labels strenuously, and mercilessly.   And the pressure on a person with one parent who is black and another white to &#8220;be black&#8221; (as opposed to being able to choose to &#8220;be white&#8221;, or even multi-ethnic) comes hard from both sides of the color-chasm.  Yes, there are bi- or multi-ethnic people who choose to identify themselves as black, but it&#8217;s very hard to choose another identity instead (see:  Tiger Woods).</p>
<p>And I cannot possibly comment without responding to Dorothy, who made my whole day with &#8220;<em>Perhaps you are just too pure of heart to see it.</em>&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure that&#8217;s not how I ended up the way I am, and I&#8217;m shocked that any number of people haven&#8217;t hastened to assure you of that.  (smile&#8230;)
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		<title>by: The Umpire</title>
		<link>http://www.polimom.com/2006/10/25/sometimes-a-floozy-is-just-a-floozy/#comment-42695</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 21:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Patrick wrote:  "Quite simply, in our society, biracial people are identified (by others) as whatever part isn’t white. No, it’s not right, but it’s the way we think."


But it's not just that "others" identify "others" as their non-"white" genetic background... but many "bi-racials" do it to themselves.

All I can say is that if I were "Junior's" white mother, I'd be more than just a little bit offended.

(Oh, and it's &lt;strong&gt;K&lt;/strong&gt;aty... not Caty -- but I don't necessarily agree with your assessment of the town.  There's a big difference between "Katy" and "Katy-proper"...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick wrote:  &#8220;Quite simply, in our society, biracial people are identified (by others) as whatever part isn’t white. No, it’s not right, but it’s the way we think.&#8221;</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s not just that &#8220;others&#8221; identify &#8220;others&#8221; as their non-&#8221;white&#8221; genetic background&#8230; but many &#8220;bi-racials&#8221; do it to themselves.</p>
<p>All I can say is that if I were &#8220;Junior&#8217;s&#8221; white mother, I&#8217;d be more than just a little bit offended.</p>
<p>(Oh, and it&#8217;s <strong>K</strong>aty&#8230; not Caty &#8212; but I don&#8217;t necessarily agree with your assessment of the town.  There&#8217;s a big difference between &#8220;Katy&#8221; and &#8220;Katy-proper&#8221;&#8230;)
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		<title>by: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.polimom.com/2006/10/25/sometimes-a-floozy-is-just-a-floozy/#comment-42638</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'll admit, my first thought when I saw that ad wasn't that the "floozy" was a white woman hitting on a black man. And that's probably a function of my being too young and too moderate/nonracist to think in that way. But the problem is that there &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; people who think that way, and yes, they are in the state of Tennessee just as much as they are in the state of Georgia (where I live). 

In response to The Umpire's comments: Hopefully (and from what I can tell from Polimom's writings), Caty, TX is a fairly colorblind city. If you've lived in the Southeast for any period of time, you know that those places are very few and very far between here. Yes, there are people who cry racism every time someone who isn't white encounters difficulty. But we're also talking about a state with a history of racism since its creation. Whether or not it was intentional, what a lot of middle-aged and older white men will see is a black man who goes after white women at playboy parties. I don't know what else to say except that that's the way that it is.

Quite simply, in our society, biracial people are identified (by others) as whatever part isn't white. No, it's not right, but it's the way we think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll admit, my first thought when I saw that ad wasn&#8217;t that the &#8220;floozy&#8221; was a white woman hitting on a black man. And that&#8217;s probably a function of my being too young and too moderate/nonracist to think in that way. But the problem is that there <i>are</i> people who think that way, and yes, they are in the state of Tennessee just as much as they are in the state of Georgia (where I live). </p>
<p>In response to The Umpire&#8217;s comments: Hopefully (and from what I can tell from Polimom&#8217;s writings), Caty, TX is a fairly colorblind city. If you&#8217;ve lived in the Southeast for any period of time, you know that those places are very few and very far between here. Yes, there are people who cry racism every time someone who isn&#8217;t white encounters difficulty. But we&#8217;re also talking about a state with a history of racism since its creation. Whether or not it was intentional, what a lot of middle-aged and older white men will see is a black man who goes after white women at playboy parties. I don&#8217;t know what else to say except that that&#8217;s the way that it is.</p>
<p>Quite simply, in our society, biracial people are identified (by others) as whatever part isn&#8217;t white. No, it&#8217;s not right, but it&#8217;s the way we think.
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		<title>by: Mark Folse</title>
		<link>http://www.polimom.com/2006/10/25/sometimes-a-floozy-is-just-a-floozy/#comment-42621</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>That James Joyner bit at the end is the funniest (and most apt) bit of political commentary I've read in a long time. Thanks for finding that</description>
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		<title>by: The Umpire</title>
		<link>http://www.polimom.com/2006/10/25/sometimes-a-floozy-is-just-a-floozy/#comment-42605</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I don't think it's a blind spot...  You're not blind because you can't be expected to see something that's not there.  Racialists will always see race in everything whether it's there or not.

But just a few random thoughts about this topic:

1.  Aren't the overwhelming majority of most playmates "white"?  So, wouldn't the caricature in the video make sense?

2.  Isn't "Junior" half-white?  I wonder how his "white" mother feels when he refers to himself (or is referred to by others) as being "black".  At least Tiger Woods refers to himself as "Cablinasian" to recognize all aspects of his racial heritage -- it seems "Junior" just throws half of himself away...

3. Is it just me, or does this whole silly exercise remind anybody else of those Dr. Seuss characters with the stars on their bellies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a blind spot&#8230;  You&#8217;re not blind because you can&#8217;t be expected to see something that&#8217;s not there.  Racialists will always see race in everything whether it&#8217;s there or not.</p>
<p>But just a few random thoughts about this topic:</p>
<p>1.  Aren&#8217;t the overwhelming majority of most playmates &#8220;white&#8221;?  So, wouldn&#8217;t the caricature in the video make sense?</p>
<p>2.  Isn&#8217;t &#8220;Junior&#8221; half-white?  I wonder how his &#8220;white&#8221; mother feels when he refers to himself (or is referred to by others) as being &#8220;black&#8221;.  At least Tiger Woods refers to himself as &#8220;Cablinasian&#8221; to recognize all aspects of his racial heritage &#8212; it seems &#8220;Junior&#8221; just throws half of himself away&#8230;</p>
<p>3. Is it just me, or does this whole silly exercise remind anybody else of those Dr. Seuss characters with the stars on their bellies?
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		<title>by: Smukke</title>
		<link>http://www.polimom.com/2006/10/25/sometimes-a-floozy-is-just-a-floozy/#comment-42594</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Robert writes: "...anyone being influnced by the white woman/black man inuendo would not have been a Ford voter anyway."

Good point, but the goal may well have been to drive anti-Ford votes up. "Be sure to get out there and vote for the other guy because this uppity Ford feller is going to grab all the pretty white women and turn them into his harem. Mark my words, boys."   

Nothing wrong with increasing voter turnout, but once again this kind of approach increases 'against' votes rather than 'for' votes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert writes: &#8220;&#8230;anyone being influnced by the white woman/black man inuendo would not have been a Ford voter anyway.&#8221;</p>
<p>Good point, but the goal may well have been to drive anti-Ford votes up. &#8220;Be sure to get out there and vote for the other guy because this uppity Ford feller is going to grab all the pretty white women and turn them into his harem. Mark my words, boys.&#8221;   </p>
<p>Nothing wrong with increasing voter turnout, but once again this kind of approach increases &#8216;against&#8217; votes rather than &#8216;for&#8217; votes.
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		<title>by: Robert A.</title>
		<link>http://www.polimom.com/2006/10/25/sometimes-a-floozy-is-just-a-floozy/#comment-42475</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 04:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>People really watched the add and the only thing that stuck was the white woman asking the black man to call her?  Somehow I have the feeling that anyone being influnced by the white woman/black man inuendo would not have been a Ford voter anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People really watched the add and the only thing that stuck was the white woman asking the black man to call her?  Somehow I have the feeling that anyone being influnced by the white woman/black man inuendo would not have been a Ford voter anyway.
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		<title>by: Dorothy</title>
		<link>http://www.polimom.com/2006/10/25/sometimes-a-floozy-is-just-a-floozy/#comment-42446</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 02:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Yep, I think we've hit a "big Polimom blind-spot."  Perhaps you are just too pure of heart to see it.  Having grown up in northeast Mississippi, not far from the Tennessee state line, and having attended college in Tennessee, I can assure you that this is egregious race-baiting that will certainly appeal to a particular segment of the population in that area of the world - mostly older white guys.  It might just be enough of a segment to put Corker over the top.  I hope not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, I think we&#8217;ve hit a &#8220;big Polimom blind-spot.&#8221;  Perhaps you are just too pure of heart to see it.  Having grown up in northeast Mississippi, not far from the Tennessee state line, and having attended college in Tennessee, I can assure you that this is egregious race-baiting that will certainly appeal to a particular segment of the population in that area of the world - mostly older white guys.  It might just be enough of a segment to put Corker over the top.  I hope not.
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		<title>by: Polimom</title>
		<link>http://www.polimom.com/2006/10/25/sometimes-a-floozy-is-just-a-floozy/#comment-42440</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 01:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Greg -- I listened to the radio ad, too.  Pretty ambiguous if taken alone (again), but in combination, it's certainly odd.

Meanwhile, they are apparently pulling the ad (&lt;a href="http://www.knoxnews.com/kns/election/article/0,1406,KNS_630_5092722,00.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;) -- so I gather this is indeed one of my blind spots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg &#8212; I listened to the radio ad, too.  Pretty ambiguous if taken alone (again), but in combination, it&#8217;s certainly odd.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, they are apparently pulling the ad (<a href="http://www.knoxnews.com/kns/election/article/0,1406,KNS_630_5092722,00.html" rel="nofollow">link</a>) &#8212; so I gather this is indeed one of my blind spots.
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