Comments on: Houston’s Blame Game http://www.polimom.com/2006/09/01/houstons-blame-game/ I used to be in the middle, but they keep moving the line! Fri, 21 Nov 2008 06:43:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.5 by: In support of Lazarus http://www.polimom.com/2006/09/01/houstons-blame-game/#comment-43826 Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:04:41 +0000 http://www.polimom.com/2006/09/01/houstons-blame-game/#comment-43826 Good job Lazarus. Polimom is another liberal full of you know what. Maybe when one of these thugs crawls through her window one night she'll have a different perspective. I spent two years in New Orleans, and it was a hellhole. And yes, that police department was CORRUPT BEYOND BELIEF. Plenty of these transplants are THUGS. That is a fact. In the two years I was in New Orleans attending graduate school on academic scholarship, I had a friend raped, another robbed at gunpoint, another carjacked, and another close-lined off of his bicycle by a 12 year old kid (who got on the bike and road off with it). Also, a law student was shot to death in a grocery store, and a fraternity kid was killed on a college campus. Nobody is saying that every New Orleanian is a thug. But quit towing the liberal line and trying to make us believe there aren't a large number of crooks in that bunch we took in. You never addressed Lazarus because you can't. You are a typical liberal - you cannot backup anything you say. Why don't you move to Berkeley? You'll be waiting for a while Lazarus. She has no response. Typical. Good job Lazarus. Polimom is another liberal full of you know what. Maybe when one of these thugs crawls through her window one night she’ll have a different perspective. I spent two years in New Orleans, and it was a hellhole. And yes, that police department was CORRUPT BEYOND BELIEF.
Plenty of these transplants are THUGS. That is a fact. In the two years I was in New Orleans attending graduate school on academic scholarship, I had a friend raped, another robbed at gunpoint, another carjacked, and another close-lined off of his bicycle by a 12 year old kid (who got on the bike and road off with it). Also, a law student was shot to death in a grocery store, and a fraternity kid was killed on a college campus.
Nobody is saying that every New Orleanian is a thug. But quit towing the liberal line and trying to make us believe there aren’t a large number of crooks in that bunch we took in. You never addressed Lazarus because you can’t. You are a typical liberal - you cannot backup anything you say. Why don’t you move to Berkeley?
You’ll be waiting for a while Lazarus. She has no response. Typical.

]]> by: Lazarus http://www.polimom.com/2006/09/01/houstons-blame-game/#comment-34301 Fri, 08 Sep 2006 07:56:45 +0000 http://www.polimom.com/2006/09/01/houstons-blame-game/#comment-34301 Still waiting : Here is something to read while you make up ore BS http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/4171615.html Still waiting :
Here is something to read while you make up ore BS
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/4171615.html

]]> by: Polimom http://www.polimom.com/2006/09/01/houstons-blame-game/#comment-33952 Thu, 07 Sep 2006 12:25:46 +0000 http://www.polimom.com/2006/09/01/houstons-blame-game/#comment-33952 Hi Ed -- No, it's not just the media... and of cource there are criminals amongst those who came from New Orleans. Nobody knows that as well as the folks who tried to live among them prior to Katrina, too. By repeating and amplifying unsubstantiated rumors, though, the media enabled (or in some cases re-affirmed) a prejudgment of <em>all </em>the evacuees. And the whole "send them all back" meme just makes people look silly. Of course, the media might be over-amplifying that, too.... with similar effect on all Houstonians. Hi Ed — No, it’s not just the media… and of cource there are criminals amongst those who came from New Orleans. Nobody knows that as well as the folks who tried to live among them prior to Katrina, too.

By repeating and amplifying unsubstantiated rumors, though, the media enabled (or in some cases re-affirmed) a prejudgment of all the evacuees.

And the whole “send them all back” meme just makes people look silly. Of course, the media might be over-amplifying that, too…. with similar effect on all Houstonians.

]]> by: Lazarus http://www.polimom.com/2006/09/01/houstons-blame-game/#comment-33940 Thu, 07 Sep 2006 11:52:57 +0000 http://www.polimom.com/2006/09/01/houstons-blame-game/#comment-33940 Still waiting Still waiting

]]> by: Ed T. http://www.polimom.com/2006/09/01/houstons-blame-game/#comment-33079 Tue, 05 Sep 2006 14:36:22 +0000 http://www.polimom.com/2006/09/01/houstons-blame-game/#comment-33079 Poli, It isn't simply the media. IIRC, Chief Hurtt made some sort of claim that the increase in crime in Houston over the past 12 months or so could be *directly attributed* to the influx of evacuees from the NOLA area - heck, if the chief of HPD says it, then it *must* be so, and if he said it then the mayor of the city must at least know of it (and most likely approve)... yes? Of course, you make good points - and so did the spokesman for the area of Houston where the meeting was held, when he said that since the folks out there didn't exercise their right to vote, why should they expect the elected officials to pay them any mind? ~EdT. Poli,

It isn’t simply the media. IIRC, Chief Hurtt made some sort of claim that the increase in crime in Houston over the past 12 months or so could be *directly attributed* to the influx of evacuees from the NOLA area - heck, if the chief of HPD says it, then it *must* be so, and if he said it then the mayor of the city must at least know of it (and most likely approve)… yes?

Of course, you make good points - and so did the spokesman for the area of Houston where the meeting was held, when he said that since the folks out there didn’t exercise their right to vote, why should they expect the elected officials to pay them any mind?

~EdT.

]]> by: Lazarus http://www.polimom.com/2006/09/01/houstons-blame-game/#comment-33028 Tue, 05 Sep 2006 06:54:56 +0000 http://www.polimom.com/2006/09/01/houstons-blame-game/#comment-33028 Still waiting. Still waiting.

]]> by: Lazarus http://www.polimom.com/2006/09/01/houstons-blame-game/#comment-32712 Sat, 02 Sep 2006 22:12:39 +0000 http://www.polimom.com/2006/09/01/houstons-blame-game/#comment-32712 That's an easy statement to make since you don't give any particulars. Point out : (1) myths (2) lies (3) irrelevancies (4) legends ?? That’s an easy statement to make since you don’t give any particulars. Point out :
(1) myths
(2) lies
(3) irrelevancies
(4) legends ??

]]> by: Polimom http://www.polimom.com/2006/09/01/houstons-blame-game/#comment-32656 Sat, 02 Sep 2006 16:11:37 +0000 http://www.polimom.com/2006/09/01/houstons-blame-game/#comment-32656 Jezum, Lazarus -- you packed so many myths, lies, irrelevancies, and legends into that first comment, it's not even worth trying to sort out the sentence or two with value you buried in there. That's too bad, actually; those might otherwise have been jump-off points for worthwhile discussion. Jezum, Lazarus — you packed so many myths, lies, irrelevancies, and legends into that first comment, it’s not even worth trying to sort out the sentence or two with value you buried in there. That’s too bad, actually; those might otherwise have been jump-off points for worthwhile discussion.

]]> by: Lazarus http://www.polimom.com/2006/09/01/houstons-blame-game/#comment-32585 Sat, 02 Sep 2006 11:39:43 +0000 http://www.polimom.com/2006/09/01/houstons-blame-game/#comment-32585 And by the way, I'm talking about people 18 years of age and older. The New Orleans gangbangers in the Houston schools have been mostly 17 and older because in Texas if you want to go to school you can until you are 21. They don’t want school for education they want it for recruitment. But fear not, the crime will go down one way or another. Unlike Louisiana, Texas has no problem sentencing a 17-year-old killer to death and 15 year-old killer to 99years plus-one-dark-day . And by the way, I’m talking about people 18 years of age and older.
The New Orleans gangbangers in the Houston schools have been mostly 17 and older because in Texas if you want to go to school you can until you are 21. They don’t want school for education they want it for recruitment.
But fear not, the crime will go down one way or another. Unlike Louisiana, Texas has no problem sentencing a 17-year-old killer to death and 15 year-old killer to 99years plus-one-dark-day .

]]> by: Lazarus http://www.polimom.com/2006/09/01/houstons-blame-game/#comment-32580 Sat, 02 Sep 2006 10:40:42 +0000 http://www.polimom.com/2006/09/01/houstons-blame-game/#comment-32580 From NOAA - <I> … (Katrina) landfall in south Florida at around 6.30 EDT(A.M.) on August 25th, … Katrina spent only seven hours over (Flordia) … virtually all models showed the storm to increase (went to Cat 5, then down to Cat 4 by final landfall) and make landfall in the western Louisiana to eastern Mississippi coast.</I> That’s four days warning for the Big Easy of being in the center of the hurricane warnings. And the LOCAL government during those days should have evacuated the people. The numbers don't lie. It is a FACT. People who were former Louisiana (New Orleans and surrounding areas) residents have had an overwhelming effect on violent crime in Houston and the surrounding areas. It can be shown on the city maps where so many of the evacuees live, the crime level there goes off the charts. You surely aren't saying those punks with the stupid street names from Louisiana didn't kill those people are you? What were they doing free anyway? They’d killed people in Louisiana and the police arrested them. *Sad* It's not just COMMITING crimes either. When the police check for ID of the dead person, and it is a Louisiana card, that's an effect. And PLEASE don’t compare the two police departments. New Orleans is known as having the worse and lowest paid police in the nation. Yes, Houston could have used more police on the street before September last year but in some areas of the city now, they need rolling armored SWAT trucks on constant patrol. You can’t honestly argue that this hasn’t harmed Houston greatly. Businesses that have been running for years closing their doors because of the repeated crimes directly traced back to evacuees. Certain gangs that have NEVER been in Houston area schools are using Louisiana gangbangers to recruit local punks and expand their criminal operations. Check the percentage of violent crimes in the five preceding years and note the jump in the past year. Make a three-year chart of the rising crime rate in Houston you talk about and look at the HUGE spike that occurred starting in September last year. Houston is a city with heart and we did take people in to help. Almost nobody else in the nation would. I didn’t see those Democrat cities and states like Los Angles, New York, Detroit, Pennsylvania, Boston, or such offering to take even part of the almost a quarter-million people we did without hesitation. Like I said, Houston has a big heart but it seems to many here a year later we’re getting stabbed in it repeatedly from the back. Not all, but a lot of these “guests” have overstayed their welcome. Like the deadbeat relation that comes over to stay on your couch for a “few days” but never leaves, it’s getting old. The feds need to cut loose all those trailer homes and set them up and those folks who are criminals or welfare lifers not interested in finding work need to be bussed back home. What happened in New Orleans was a tragedy but one almost everyone knew sooner than later was going to happen; and the hurricane didn’t really HIT New Orleans. You build a city in a hole with two sides consisting of a big lake and the Gulf of Mexico; it’s a perfect setup for a tragedy. Now that same storm that made shambles of coastal Mississippi, Alabama, and Louisiana a year ago is making for a second tragedy here in Houston. From NOAA - … (Katrina) landfall in south Florida at around 6.30 EDT(A.M.) on August 25th, … Katrina spent only seven hours over (Flordia) … virtually all models showed the storm to increase (went to Cat 5, then down to Cat 4 by final landfall) and make landfall in the western Louisiana to eastern Mississippi coast.
That’s four days warning for the Big Easy of being in the center of the hurricane warnings. And the LOCAL government during those days should have evacuated the people.
The numbers don’t lie. It is a FACT. People who were former Louisiana (New Orleans and surrounding areas) residents have had an overwhelming effect on violent crime in Houston and the surrounding areas.
It can be shown on the city maps where so many of the evacuees live, the crime level there goes off the charts. You surely aren’t saying those punks with the stupid street names from Louisiana didn’t kill those people are you? What were they doing free anyway? They’d killed people in Louisiana and the police arrested them. *Sad*
It’s not just COMMITING crimes either. When the police check for ID of the dead person, and it is a Louisiana card, that’s an effect. And PLEASE don’t compare the two police departments. New Orleans is known as having the worse and lowest paid police in the nation. Yes, Houston could have used more police on the street before September last year but in some areas of the city now, they need rolling armored SWAT trucks on constant patrol.
You can’t honestly argue that this hasn’t harmed Houston greatly. Businesses that have been running for years closing their doors because of the repeated crimes directly traced back to evacuees. Certain gangs that have NEVER been in Houston area schools are using Louisiana gangbangers to recruit local punks and expand their criminal operations.
Check the percentage of violent crimes in the five preceding years and note the jump in the past year. Make a three-year chart of the rising crime rate in Houston you talk about and look at the HUGE spike that occurred starting in September last year.
Houston is a city with heart and we did take people in to help. Almost nobody else in the nation would. I didn’t see those Democrat cities and states like Los Angles, New York, Detroit, Pennsylvania, Boston, or such offering to take even part of the almost a quarter-million people we did without hesitation. Like I said, Houston has a big heart but it seems to many here a year later we’re getting stabbed in it repeatedly from the back.
Not all, but a lot of these “guests” have overstayed their welcome. Like the deadbeat relation that comes over to stay on your couch for a “few days” but never leaves, it’s getting old. The feds need to cut loose all those trailer homes and set them up and those folks who are criminals or welfare lifers not interested in finding work need to be bussed back home.
What happened in New Orleans was a tragedy but one almost everyone knew sooner than later was going to happen; and the hurricane didn’t really HIT New Orleans. You build a city in a hole with two sides consisting of a big lake and the Gulf of Mexico; it’s a perfect setup for a tragedy. Now that same storm that made shambles of coastal Mississippi, Alabama, and Louisiana a year ago is making for a second tragedy here in Houston.

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